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		<title>Comment on Is there a better way of scoring cars? by Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m of the school of thinking that says &quot;there&#039;s no such thing as a bad car&quot;. Aside from the old Chrysler Sebring, of course. 

Rating cars is a tricky, but easily accessible way of doing things. Don&#039;t want to read a whole road test? Head to the sum up bar and see a nice big number heartlessly marking out its viability as a product. Easy. 

If I ruled the world I&#039;d do away with the numeric system all together and replace it/bring forward the Pros/Cons points. Three of each in clear view telling the reader what&#039;s very good and (rather than &#039;very bad&#039; because that doesn&#039;t happen any more) what&#039;s slightly irritating about a car. 

However, I do not rule the world. Numbers it is, I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m of the school of thinking that says &#8220;there&#8217;s no such thing as a bad car&#8221;. Aside from the old Chrysler Sebring, of course. </p>
<p>Rating cars is a tricky, but easily accessible way of doing things. Don&#8217;t want to read a whole road test? Head to the sum up bar and see a nice big number heartlessly marking out its viability as a product. Easy. </p>
<p>If I ruled the world I&#8217;d do away with the numeric system all together and replace it/bring forward the Pros/Cons points. Three of each in clear view telling the reader what&#8217;s very good and (rather than &#8216;very bad&#8217; because that doesn&#8217;t happen any more) what&#8217;s slightly irritating about a car. </p>
<p>However, I do not rule the world. Numbers it is, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is there a better way of scoring cars? by Jamie @ Challenge Tyres Trowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie @ Challenge Tyres Trowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the percentage area is a great shout. As you said a number of industries already employ it, most notably video games. 

You can go even more in depth with it too. There was one publication I used to read that rated a game in 5 categories, assigned them all a percentage, and then created an average overall percentage. If you REALLY want to split hairs you can start moving to decimal points too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the percentage area is a great shout. As you said a number of industries already employ it, most notably video games. </p>
<p>You can go even more in depth with it too. There was one publication I used to read that rated a game in 5 categories, assigned them all a percentage, and then created an average overall percentage. If you REALLY want to split hairs you can start moving to decimal points too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is there a better way of scoring cars? by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.wheelideas.com:/home/2012/is-there-a-better-way-of-scoring-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon, I like the idea of varying scores depending on personal need. That should easily be possible on a web-based publication. Little more difficult in print.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I like the idea of varying scores depending on personal need. That should easily be possible on a web-based publication. Little more difficult in print.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is there a better way of scoring cars? by Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Different people want different things from cars for example a two-seater sports car on a sunny weekend, a barge for motorway miles, a MPV for the school run.  

I&#039;d say break a cars score into quality, fun, comfort, practicality, running costs etc then the reader makes an informed choice.

On a website you could get the user to list these qualiies in order of preference thus giving them a unique score for that car.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different people want different things from cars for example a two-seater sports car on a sunny weekend, a barge for motorway miles, a MPV for the school run.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say break a cars score into quality, fun, comfort, practicality, running costs etc then the reader makes an informed choice.</p>
<p>On a website you could get the user to list these qualiies in order of preference thus giving them a unique score for that car.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is there a better way of scoring cars? by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.wheelideas.com:/home/2012/is-there-a-better-way-of-scoring-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A three-level system is a good one. Maybe it&#039;s just me that wants to be able to grade everything against everything else...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A three-level system is a good one. Maybe it&#8217;s just me that wants to be able to grade everything against everything else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is there a better way of scoring cars? by Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For my occasional reviews of &quot;stuff&quot; I&#039;ve tried to avoid the &quot;out of five&quot; / &quot;out of ten&quot; approach, and decided on something similar to your idea #1. The problem I see with idea #2 is that instead of being out of five or ten, it&#039;s now out of a hundred - and a car which scores 67% may just as well be a seven out of ten, which may just as well be a four out of five. The extra percentage points, to my mind, don&#039;t count for anything - is a 68% car really that much better than a 66%?

When it comes down to it, these days you really have to be going some to produce a bad car - or at least a car that your average buyer would consider bad. So do you really need anything more than something like this (from a buyer&#039;s point of view):
1 - Avoid. This is a bad car.
2 - It&#039;s worth a look. It is &quot;an car&quot;.
3 - Excellent, top of the class.

I guess it&#039;s similar to your current 4-level system, but lumping &quot;likes it&quot; and &quot;it&#039;s OK&quot; into one. Most cars will probably end up in the middle bracket, and whilst this doesn&#039;t do much to split them apart, the differences will probably come down to personal opinion - not something that a review can really address.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my occasional reviews of &#8220;stuff&#8221; I&#8217;ve tried to avoid the &#8220;out of five&#8221; / &#8220;out of ten&#8221; approach, and decided on something similar to your idea #1. The problem I see with idea #2 is that instead of being out of five or ten, it&#8217;s now out of a hundred &#8211; and a car which scores 67% may just as well be a seven out of ten, which may just as well be a four out of five. The extra percentage points, to my mind, don&#8217;t count for anything &#8211; is a 68% car really that much better than a 66%?</p>
<p>When it comes down to it, these days you really have to be going some to produce a bad car &#8211; or at least a car that your average buyer would consider bad. So do you really need anything more than something like this (from a buyer&#8217;s point of view):<br />
1 &#8211; Avoid. This is a bad car.<br />
2 &#8211; It&#8217;s worth a look. It is &#8220;an car&#8221;.<br />
3 &#8211; Excellent, top of the class.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s similar to your current 4-level system, but lumping &#8220;likes it&#8221; and &#8220;it&#8217;s OK&#8221; into one. Most cars will probably end up in the middle bracket, and whilst this doesn&#8217;t do much to split them apart, the differences will probably come down to personal opinion &#8211; not something that a review can really address.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Electric vehicle statistics mess by Fleetdrive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleetdrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s true EV&#039;s are restricted in there usage but it&#039;s just a different way of using a vehicle. I do really find the speculation about EV&#039;s fantastic - that&#039;s why we bought 2 to find out how it really goes down. I am a petrol head of 40 years now, I love racing cars and from the age of 6 spent most of my time alongside my dad at his bodyshop. Believe me - until you have lived with these you cannot really have an opinion. Sure it&#039;s restrictive and you have to respect the range and at present the cars are so expensive the fuel savings evaporate BUT this is going to happen and sooner rather than later - the LEAF is such a great car to drive and we have had people use one at rate of  of 30k miles a year ( 600 miles a week for a month) . Once the manufacturers get to a decent price they will sell like hotcakes.

Mike Potter
Fleetdrive]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true EV&#8217;s are restricted in there usage but it&#8217;s just a different way of using a vehicle. I do really find the speculation about EV&#8217;s fantastic &#8211; that&#8217;s why we bought 2 to find out how it really goes down. I am a petrol head of 40 years now, I love racing cars and from the age of 6 spent most of my time alongside my dad at his bodyshop. Believe me &#8211; until you have lived with these you cannot really have an opinion. Sure it&#8217;s restrictive and you have to respect the range and at present the cars are so expensive the fuel savings evaporate BUT this is going to happen and sooner rather than later &#8211; the LEAF is such a great car to drive and we have had people use one at rate of  of 30k miles a year ( 600 miles a week for a month) . Once the manufacturers get to a decent price they will sell like hotcakes.</p>
<p>Mike Potter<br />
Fleetdrive</p>
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		<title>Comment on Electric vehicle statistics mess by Ling Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ling Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too get increasingly annoyed about frankly stupid, quick, PR statements that are simply lies and extrapolated &quot;positive&quot; comments about EVs. Some culprits, like AutomotivePR are simply breathtaking in their nonsense that gets Tweeted and printed. Many journalists regurgitate this stuff without applying a brain cell of critical analysis and common sense.

The statements about the Mini &quot;survey&quot; today (of people who had been using an Electric Mini, so hardly a typical sample) were outrageously biased.

On the &quot;80% of journeys&quot; claim, after the event, on analysis, that actually may be accurate. But as pointed out, that certainly does not mean 80% of distance driven, and it relies on the use of a crystal ball. It also presumes that before every journey you undertake a meticulous &quot;flight plan&quot; as you can&#039;t modify your journey in the same way as a conventionally fuelled car.

First of all, to be confident your journey is &quot;do-able&quot; in your EV, you need to ensure you start with a full charge (or do the maths and figure out how many miles remain) and also that you end up at a destinantion with charging infrastructure. Then, you need to be fairly certain you won&#039;t be diverted (&quot;oh, can you pick Lucy from school on the way home, nip to the supermarket for milk, and then drop Lucy off at your mum&#039;s 25 miles away?&quot;). And what happens in winter when your wife and kids are stuck in a traffic jam on the motorway with lights, heater, wipers and radio on? Or in summer with the aircon on? When do you start driving with no headlights and a window open to demist, in silence, to save electricity?

What happens when someone forgets to flip the switch and you wake up to see that your car hasn&#039;t been charged overnight? Do you write off the whole day? Do you wake up in the middle of the night worrying it&#039;s on charge? What happens if you get an emergency call and have to nip to the hospital? Do you risk the car with just 20 miles left on the meter?

===

Answers to all the arguments about electric car development actually lie in far higher fuel prices (or fuel shortages - the same thing in practice). That will be the main catalyst for any advance in EV and other alternative technology.

So, why do most people (including the foolish AA President, and many, many voices, etc) constantly clamour for cheaper petrol and diesel prices? Pandering to populist stupidity.

In my view, we would do well to see £5 a litre of fuel. That will really enable an advance in alternative vehicle power. It’s a (popular) mistake to demand cheap fuel, in my opinion. It&#039;s far cheaper than it should be.

Most people waste a lot of driven miles, driving a car is still extremely discretionary (ie, “let’s go for a drive”). You see people leaving engines running, just wasting fuel, and living far from their work (creating a commute). This should not happen, really. You don’t switch on your oven for fun, or run a water tap just for the hell of it, or leave the door open on your fridge, or leave lights on all day “for fun/enjoyment” . In the same way, driving should be frowned upon if it’s not a necessary journey.

What is necessary? Well, that’s up to you, but as I say… people run a bath without guilt, but often prefer a shower and would certainly not just run the hot water away for the hell of it. Yet a lot of energy goes into providing hot (and cold) water, just like into making petrol and diesel.

High fuel prices are GOOD, people will vote with their wallets and frankly learn to adapt to a new style of car use. So increase that fuel tax!

The answer is not Hydrogen, by the way, terrible stuff: TopGear got that bit VERY wrong the other night.

But, TG were right about the Nissan Leaf and Peugeot i-Skip or whatever it’s called. They are VERY niche and pointless at the moment. Range anxiety is a right killer. The voices relentlessly plugging EVs need to start tackling the truth and real issues, not just vomiting relentless PR and lies (like the 2p/mile cost claim made about the Minis).

Ling
LINGsCARS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too get increasingly annoyed about frankly stupid, quick, PR statements that are simply lies and extrapolated &#8220;positive&#8221; comments about EVs. Some culprits, like AutomotivePR are simply breathtaking in their nonsense that gets Tweeted and printed. Many journalists regurgitate this stuff without applying a brain cell of critical analysis and common sense.</p>
<p>The statements about the Mini &#8220;survey&#8221; today (of people who had been using an Electric Mini, so hardly a typical sample) were outrageously biased.</p>
<p>On the &#8220;80% of journeys&#8221; claim, after the event, on analysis, that actually may be accurate. But as pointed out, that certainly does not mean 80% of distance driven, and it relies on the use of a crystal ball. It also presumes that before every journey you undertake a meticulous &#8220;flight plan&#8221; as you can&#8217;t modify your journey in the same way as a conventionally fuelled car.</p>
<p>First of all, to be confident your journey is &#8220;do-able&#8221; in your EV, you need to ensure you start with a full charge (or do the maths and figure out how many miles remain) and also that you end up at a destinantion with charging infrastructure. Then, you need to be fairly certain you won&#8217;t be diverted (&#8220;oh, can you pick Lucy from school on the way home, nip to the supermarket for milk, and then drop Lucy off at your mum&#8217;s 25 miles away?&#8221;). And what happens in winter when your wife and kids are stuck in a traffic jam on the motorway with lights, heater, wipers and radio on? Or in summer with the aircon on? When do you start driving with no headlights and a window open to demist, in silence, to save electricity?</p>
<p>What happens when someone forgets to flip the switch and you wake up to see that your car hasn&#8217;t been charged overnight? Do you write off the whole day? Do you wake up in the middle of the night worrying it&#8217;s on charge? What happens if you get an emergency call and have to nip to the hospital? Do you risk the car with just 20 miles left on the meter?</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>Answers to all the arguments about electric car development actually lie in far higher fuel prices (or fuel shortages &#8211; the same thing in practice). That will be the main catalyst for any advance in EV and other alternative technology.</p>
<p>So, why do most people (including the foolish AA President, and many, many voices, etc) constantly clamour for cheaper petrol and diesel prices? Pandering to populist stupidity.</p>
<p>In my view, we would do well to see £5 a litre of fuel. That will really enable an advance in alternative vehicle power. It’s a (popular) mistake to demand cheap fuel, in my opinion. It&#8217;s far cheaper than it should be.</p>
<p>Most people waste a lot of driven miles, driving a car is still extremely discretionary (ie, “let’s go for a drive”). You see people leaving engines running, just wasting fuel, and living far from their work (creating a commute). This should not happen, really. You don’t switch on your oven for fun, or run a water tap just for the hell of it, or leave the door open on your fridge, or leave lights on all day “for fun/enjoyment” . In the same way, driving should be frowned upon if it’s not a necessary journey.</p>
<p>What is necessary? Well, that’s up to you, but as I say… people run a bath without guilt, but often prefer a shower and would certainly not just run the hot water away for the hell of it. Yet a lot of energy goes into providing hot (and cold) water, just like into making petrol and diesel.</p>
<p>High fuel prices are GOOD, people will vote with their wallets and frankly learn to adapt to a new style of car use. So increase that fuel tax!</p>
<p>The answer is not Hydrogen, by the way, terrible stuff: TopGear got that bit VERY wrong the other night.</p>
<p>But, TG were right about the Nissan Leaf and Peugeot i-Skip or whatever it’s called. They are VERY niche and pointless at the moment. Range anxiety is a right killer. The voices relentlessly plugging EVs need to start tackling the truth and real issues, not just vomiting relentless PR and lies (like the 2p/mile cost claim made about the Minis).</p>
<p>Ling<br />
LINGsCARS</p>
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		<title>Comment on Electric vehicle statistics mess by John McGregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said.  Not many people can afford to spend £25k on a car to do little more than commute to work in.  They (quite reasonably) expect that investment to allow them to visit friends &amp; relatives, take them on weekends away, day trips to sports events or the seaside and much more besides.

Some 2 car families, where the 2nd car does almost exclusively short journeys, may benefit from buying an EV. However, most people in that position tend to run something like a £6k secondhand Ford Fiesta as the 2nd car - the market for £25k 2nd cars may exist but is very small, as EV manufacturers are about to find out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  Not many people can afford to spend £25k on a car to do little more than commute to work in.  They (quite reasonably) expect that investment to allow them to visit friends &amp; relatives, take them on weekends away, day trips to sports events or the seaside and much more besides.</p>
<p>Some 2 car families, where the 2nd car does almost exclusively short journeys, may benefit from buying an EV. However, most people in that position tend to run something like a £6k secondhand Ford Fiesta as the 2nd car &#8211; the market for £25k 2nd cars may exist but is very small, as EV manufacturers are about to find out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Electric vehicle statistics mess by Ben Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely spot on and it&#039;s where my head has been for a long time.

I could probably use a scooter for 80% of journeys, but do I want to? 

I could probably use a car without a roof for a majority of journeys but again, would I want to?

I could possibly use public transport for many of those journeys, but would I want to?

Ultimately, public transport is no use as I can&#039;t live with the scheduled, fixed routes and limited hours. I need a roof for when it pours with rain and you can&#039;t drive down the road holding an umbrella. The scooter doesn&#039;t work as I have a family and they come in the car too - as do groceries and trips to Majestic for some wine.

So why would I want an EV that also has similar compromises and even costs me MORE money.

Usually one compromises to save money. We&#039;d all like Sky+ HD with all the channels, but I can&#039;t really afford it so we use Freeview+ HD. It saves us money and still covers us for 80% of the TV we&#039;d like to watch. 

I&#039;d like to drink Veuve Clicquot every time I drink Champagne but, again, the budget forces a compromise.

I compromise, I save money.

EVs are a compromise but also an increased cost. It makes no sense to me. I buy a car for a price that is considerably more an ICE or hybrid model and it doesn&#039;t even meet my requirement - forcing me to have a hire car or second vehicles for those longer journeys.

How does anybody come to the conclusion that buying one is a good idea? I&#039;m quite sure for 80% of people, it simply doesn&#039;t add up at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely spot on and it&#8217;s where my head has been for a long time.</p>
<p>I could probably use a scooter for 80% of journeys, but do I want to? </p>
<p>I could probably use a car without a roof for a majority of journeys but again, would I want to?</p>
<p>I could possibly use public transport for many of those journeys, but would I want to?</p>
<p>Ultimately, public transport is no use as I can&#8217;t live with the scheduled, fixed routes and limited hours. I need a roof for when it pours with rain and you can&#8217;t drive down the road holding an umbrella. The scooter doesn&#8217;t work as I have a family and they come in the car too &#8211; as do groceries and trips to Majestic for some wine.</p>
<p>So why would I want an EV that also has similar compromises and even costs me MORE money.</p>
<p>Usually one compromises to save money. We&#8217;d all like Sky+ HD with all the channels, but I can&#8217;t really afford it so we use Freeview+ HD. It saves us money and still covers us for 80% of the TV we&#8217;d like to watch. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to drink Veuve Clicquot every time I drink Champagne but, again, the budget forces a compromise.</p>
<p>I compromise, I save money.</p>
<p>EVs are a compromise but also an increased cost. It makes no sense to me. I buy a car for a price that is considerably more an ICE or hybrid model and it doesn&#8217;t even meet my requirement &#8211; forcing me to have a hire car or second vehicles for those longer journeys.</p>
<p>How does anybody come to the conclusion that buying one is a good idea? I&#8217;m quite sure for 80% of people, it simply doesn&#8217;t add up at all.</p>
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